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New Post 2/4/2008 4:59 PM
  Yosef
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Depth jump height  
Modified By Prof. Verkhoshansky  on 3/18/2008 11:18:00 PM)

Dr Verkhoshansky,

On two separate papers that you wrote, 1.1M and 1.15M mentioned as maximum heights for depth jumps. Which one do you recommend as the maximum height? Did you ever change your thought on this or was this a print mistake?

Yosef Johnson

Muskegon,Mi 

 
New Post 2/5/2008 11:15 PM
  Prof. Verkhoshansky
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Re: Depth jump height  

Dear Yosef,

you are right, there has been a print mistake, the value is 1.1 m.

I have also to say that the measure of 1.15 m doesn’t make a significant difference in the training effect.

Thank you for your attention.

 

Yuri Verkhoshansky

 
New Post 2/6/2008 6:59 AM
  Yosef
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Re: Depth jump height  
Modified By Prof. Verkhoshansky  on 3/18/2008 11:18:17 PM)

Dr Verkhoshansky,

Once one has achieved the level of using 1.1M, have they reached their gentic potential for jumping or explosiveness? Are there other methods that would eilicit further adaptation from the athlete?

Yosef Johnson

Muskegon,Mi 

 
New Post 2/10/2008 10:33 PM
  Prof. Verkhoshansky
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Dear Yosef Johnson,

before I answer you I think it’s better to clarify one important issue: Depth Jump from 0.75 m and Depth Jump from 1.1m are not training means with different training potential (the training potential of 0.75 m Depth jump is not less of the training potential of 1.1 m Depth Jump), but they are training means with slightly different training emphasis.

Depth Jump from 0.75m is finalized to Explosive Strength and Reactive capacity development.

Depth Jump from 1.1m is finalized to Maximal Strength development.

Depth Jumps from 1.1m can be very useful for sport disciplines where athletes with heavy body weight execute rapidly the changes of running direction, as in American Football, rugby and, for other aspects, also in tennis.

So, if the athlete needs to increase more the training stimuli for Explosive Strength and Reactive Capacity improvement, after the use of 0.75 m Depth Jumps, he can use Complex Super-method: maximal strength effort Barbell Squat + 0.75 m Depth Jumps.

If the athlete needs to increase more the training stimuli for Maximal Strength improvement or for the improvement of Strength component of Maximal Explosive effort exercise, after 1.1 m Depth Jumps, he can start to use Complex Super-Method: maximal strength effort Barbell Squat + 1.1 m  Depth Jump.

 

Yuri Verkhoshansky

 
New Post 2/11/2008 3:36 PM
  Yosef
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Re: Depth jump height  
Modified By Prof. Verkhoshansky  on 3/18/2008 11:18:34 PM)

Dr Verkhoshansky,

This relates to my previous questions on the Stimulation Method and is very enlightening.  The implication is that the possibility for new results is limitless albeit in very small increments for a high level sportsman.

Would you suggest that both heights be a appropriate for a basketball player in different training blocks? Would .75m precede in Block B and 1.1M continue in Block C ?  

It seems that you are saying that training at .75m will be more effective for imprving quickness and explosiveness in very short distances like 5m, is this correct?

Thank you for your explanation, this sheds a great deal of light on the possibility for athletes.

 
New Post 2/17/2008 10:28 AM
  Prof. Verkhoshansky
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Re: Depth jump height  

Dear Yosef Johnson,

1. Would you suggest that both heights be a appropriate for a basketball player in different training blocks? Would .75m precede in Block B and 1.1M continue in Block C ? 

In the Basketball Block System training Depth Jumps must be used at the end of the Block B with height from 0.75 m. Depth jumps from 1.1 m could be used sometimes only by very strong athletes as additional exercise that helps to increase the effect of Depth Jumps from 0.75 m.

 

2. It seems that you are saying that training at .75m will be more effective for improving quickness and explosiveness in very short distances like 5m, is this correct?

Not only, Depth Jumps from 0.75 m are an effective training means to improve the speed of the running start acceleration (30 m) and they are useful in all case in which it’s need to increase the explosiveness together with reactive capacity.

 

Yuri Verkhoshansky

 
New Post 2/18/2008 3:40 AM
  Yosef
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Re: Depth jump height  
Modified By Prof. Verkhoshansky  on 3/18/2008 11:18:59 PM)

Dr Verkhoshansky,

1. When one uses 1.1M, should this be used during the same time as .75M or in a different block?

2. What measurement should one use when determining appropriate strength for maximum depth jumps [1.1M]? 

 
New Post 2/24/2008 8:44 PM
  Prof. Verkhoshansky
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Re: Depth jump height  

Dear Yosef Johnson,

1. When one uses 1.1M, should this be used during the same time as .75M or in a different block?

The Depth jumps from 0.75 m and from 1.1 m must be used in the same block: 4 series of 10 Depth jumps could include 2-3 series of 10 Depth jumps from 0.75m and 1-2 series – of 10 Depth jumps from 1.1m. For an example, see  the American Football program in Manual for coaches.

2. What measurement should one use when determining appropriate strength for maximum depth jumps [1.1M]? 

Dear Yosef, I read this question many times but I didn’t and I don’t understand what you mean. Could you put this question in another way?

Yuri Verkhoshansky
 
New Post 2/25/2008 3:51 AM
  Yosef
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Re: Depth jump height  
Modified By Prof. Verkhoshansky  on 2/29/2008 5:03:27 PM)

Dr Verkhoshansky,

I apologize for my lack of clarity.

1.The Depth jumps from 0.75 m and from 1.1 m must be used in the same block: 4 series of 10 Depth jumps could include 2-3 series of 10 Depth jumps from 0.75m and 1-2 series – of 10 Depth jumps from 1.1m. For an example, see  the American Football program in Manual for coaches.

Do mean sets or series? If series, how many sets are included?. Also should .75M precede or follow 1.1M in the same workout?

2. You said that 1.1M should only be used by very strong athletes. Does this mean an ability to squat a very heavy weight or many years of using depth jumps and a thorough adaptation to them?

I hope this makes sense. Thank you for your patience.

Yosef Johnson

Muskegon, Mi, USA

 
New Post 2/29/2008 5:04 PM
  Prof. Verkhoshansky
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Re: Depth jump height  
Modified By Prof. Verkhoshansky  on 2/29/2008 5:06:03 PM)

Dear Yosef  Johnson,

 

1.    In the case of the Depth Jumps work out I think it’s better to use the word “series”. One series includes 10 exercises (Depth Jumps). In one training session (work out) must be used not more than 4 series. The series of Depth Jumps from 0.75 m must be performed before the series of Depth Jumps from 1.1 m.

2.    Depth Jumps from 1.1 m should be used only by athletes that are already adapted to Depth Jumps from 0.75m.

 

Yuri Verkhoshansky

 
New Post 3/14/2008 1:00 AM
  Yosef
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Re: Depth jump height  
Modified By Prof. Verkhoshansky  on 3/18/2008 11:17:29 PM)

Dr Verkhoshansky,

1. How long would one use the Complex Super Method in terms of weeks?

2. After using the Complex  Super Method in Block B, what transition would you recommend for Basketball in Block C?

Yosef Johnson

Muskegon ,Mi

USA

 
New Post 3/18/2008 11:20 PM
  Prof. Verkhoshansky
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Re: Depth jump height  
Modified By Prof. Verkhoshansky  on 3/18/2008 11:23:16 PM)

Dear Yosef Johnson,

1. How long would one use the Complex Super Method in terms of weeks?

It’s difficult to answer this question in generally, because all depend on the concrete training plan and on the level of the athlete who uses this plan.  Because the athlete has to be prepared to use the Complex Super Method, it will be necessary to introduce it in the planning of Block System. In this case the Complex Super Method should be putted in block B (as you wrote) and its duration is equal to that of Block B.

 

2. After using the Complex  Super Method in Block B, what transition would you recommend for Basketball in Block C?

The conceptual model of the Basketball Block System has been described in my answer to Heth Jennings in the “Conditioning and VJ improvement for Basketball” thread.

Block C (high intensity specific speed and power work):

1.   Specific speed and explosive strength exercises: starts of 10 – 20 m, specific basketball jumps and shots (with run up) executed with the repetition method and serial - repetition method (with the rest intervals that allow to have a complete recovery). The “classic” Depth jumps of the preceding block must be replaced by Depth jumps with subsequent jump shot.

2.   Specific tactical combinations executed with maximal speed (serial-repetition training method and interval training method).

All physical preparation training of block C must be carried out on the basketball court before the planed technical – tactical training.

 

Yuri Verkhoshansky

 
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